Hey, did anyone notice that the "hurt (quiet)" mix sounds just about the same as the one on TDS? The only difference I noticed was the guitar turned up a bit. Opinions, anyone?
cathrine ann friedmann (harmony@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu):
...How come no one but me has come on this newsgroup bitching that that track isn't different at ALL? I mean, yeah, "hurt" is a cool song, and I know all the jocks and eMpTV really like it -- but like, mebbe change it just a TAD, Trent? I am shocked that it even says "(remix)" after it. I wonder what the original sounds like, since the one on Halo 8 is obviously also a remix.... *snicker*
christine bomke (circe@cts.net):
Because we have sharper ears than you, perhaps?
Trent changed it. For example, the intro is much shorter, the piano/guitar/whatever background music is pitched differently, the vocals are louder, and during the chorus, there's an echo. Also, the synth sound during the first chorus comes in quicker than it does on the album version. There's a "ssshwwwwish" sound during the second verse, very much like the "sssshwish" noises at the end of "the becoming"/beginning of "i do not want this." Again, listen to it more closely, like with headphones.
lady oracle (jtthomas@delphi.com):
Um, there's an echo in the chorus on the TDS version, too...the above "shwish" noise appears in the album as well.
...Speaking of "hurt," does anyone besides me NOT particularly like the live version (i.e. the one they play on MTV)? I'd like it better if Trent were singing on key. (Call me a perfectionist.) Well, maybe he was tired or something...His performance of "hurt" here in Minneapolis was terrific.
michael roston (ending@ripco.com):
...Seriously, hasn't anyone else noticed that "hurt (quiet)" is exactly the same as the album version? Eh, I guess "closer to god" included an album version also -- but "hurt" remixes would be cool. Take a closer listen. There are differences. Not many, but they are in there. Some modifications in texture, volume, etc.
b. kinser (bkinser@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu):
It's easy to tell the difference. The original sounds like it is "breaking up", for lack of another discription. It sounds distorted. The "quiet" mix cleans this up and is much clearer.
stephanie nahas (nahas@acy.digex.net):
Hellooooo out there, "hurt (quiet)" IS a remix; it IS different, i.e. it was mixed again, hence re-mix....
Yes, it's, um, quieter.
There isn't any of the soft, fuzzy, crackly, white-noisy stereo effects stuff. Drums mixed down a bit, more prominent reverse reverb, voice stands out. It sounds clearer, basically.
You mean you don't hear it? Sorry to say, I noticed it right away -- and if you didn't, you haven't listened to the original enough.
marc (marc@newshost.li.net):
It's hard to tell on a shitty stereo at normal volume, but put TDS in a Discman and listen to "hurt," then FDtS. It's so much clearer and better. Thank god.
mike kuzyk (mkuzyk@sol.uvic.ca):
To me, that makes this version more of a remastered version than anything. I was quite disappointed to see that Trent didn't take the time to do something really unique with this track, especially since he chose to "remix" it himself.